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What is the essence of metathought in philosophy ?
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Intelli2
2018-01-25 20:09:14 UTC
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Hello,

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What is the essence of metathought in philosophy ?

Why are we thinking the thinking ?

This is a good subject of philosophy..

If i ask you question of what is morality ?

You will have the tendency to answer like this:

That morality is about the good and bad..

But this is too much abstraction that lacks sophistication and
understanding, this is too simplistic thinking..

This is why metathought of philosophy is all about,
it is a sophistication of our thought or a perfection of our thought
that wants to perfect our thinking, this is the essence of humanity
that is perfection.

And now you are really feeling the essence of philosophy that is the
essence of humanity that is: perfection that comprehend !

For example metathought of philosophy is concerned by a subject like:

What is the essence of logic ?

Here is my answer that is also metathought of philosophy:

Determinism easy for us to set the truth and sets the way of logic, and
this truth and way of logic must be computed by our brain to create
a consistent system that is efficient morality that is optimization
that is performance and reliability. So there is some truth that hurts
and some truth that is efficient morality that is optimization that we
call tolerable or good, so the essence of truth is based on our essence
that is our consciousness of space-time and the determinism of our
empirical and physical world, and about the essence of logical
consistency of the system, you can understand it by example like this:

About the consistency of the system

We call it consistency of the system..

When the system is:


If A is smaller than B

And B is smaller than C

And if B is medium


The system above doesn't allow to say that: A is smaller than B

Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that A is smaller than
B only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.

And The system above doesn't allow to say that: B is smaller than C

Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that B is smaller than
C only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.

So the system has to be consistent, so the system force you to say all
at the same time:

A is smaller than B

B is smaller than C

B is medium


So that to be strict and clear to not create any contradiction.

And about the essence of measure..

Philosophy is like mathematics..

Now what is the essence of measure ?

I think that the reference is the consciousness of space-time as
i have explained, adjoined with the senses of measure that we have,
such as the sense of orientation and the sense of measuring space and
saying that this is bigger than this etc. those ingredients
permit us to measure, i will ask for example, what is a point (in
geometry) ? to understand a point we must map it to our consciousness
of space-time as i have explained, so this is rooted on the physical
empirical world, even if we are using our senses of measure, so this
is why i have explained that mathematical logic and the mathematical Set
theory for example are also rooted on the physical and empirical world ,
but the space-time can be relative or general, relativeness permit also
to measure the truth , but this seems to create some contradictions in
the system, this has been showed in my writing and explanation of my
previous post of what is the essence of love and what is love, but i
have showed that this can be resolved by using the reference of the
general morality of the society as the reference that permits to measure
and that must be enforced by laws and police.

The essence of the Truth

What is a Truth ? what is the essence of the Truth ?

That's an important question..

Philosophy is like mathematics, because Philosophy must be based on
efficient morality and efficient morality is optimization and
optimization is performance and reliability.

So if you look at mathematical logic..

What is mathematical logic ?

Mathematical logic is also being conscious and feeling the space-time..

Here is why:

Now I will give my explanation of what is consciousness...

I hope that in my previous messages you have understood my explanation
of how the consciousness of time is generated by our brain, I have said
that the brain has a sense of direction that makes it possible to say
that one object is left or on the right and back or front etc., and the
brain is also able to see space in 3 dimensions with the sense of the
gaze for example, that is to say to give coordinates as cartesian or
polar in three dimensions to objects in the space of reality, and also
the brain by means of the sense of touch and the eye is capable of the
sense of the measurement of the magnitudes in the space of reality,
these are ingredients of the brain which gives birth to the
consciousness of time, for consciousness of time means that for two
objects that follow each other, we are able to feel the existence in
space of the back of the first object (by the sens of the orientation of
the brain) Which is for example "nothing", and that one also feels the
existence in the space of the back of the second object which is the
first object, and that we are therefore able to associate the back of
the second object to the word "before", and this is how the
consciousness of time is engendered ... now i come to a question even
more important, but what is consciousness really? i start with an
example so that you can understand what it really is: when you touch
your hands with water very hot, you are able to feel the pain and
to say that it is you who feel the pain, so the meaning
of touch is closely linked to the consciousness of the "I", but
Let us return, if you like, to the experiences of a child,
you will notice that a necessary condition for the child
to be able to learn and understand is to be able to
ask the question of "what is", but you see this question has as a
necessary condition the consciousness of the self, for when the child
arises, question of "what is" is that it would mean:
"I would like to know what it is", and the "I would like to know"
demonstrates the presence of a consciousness of the pre-ego which
guide the questioning of the child, but then what is this
awareness of the pre-ego that guides the questioning that
makes a consciousness too? Here is my answer: I believe that
as in the case of the sense of touch which is in close relationship
with the consciousness of the ego, the act of reflection is also a sens
as the sens of touch that is able to make us feel that we exist and feel
the space in three dimensions, as for touching the very warm water that
allows us to feel that the feeling of hot water hurts us ... what would
I like to say? that the sens of touch and the sens of smell for example
are adjoined to space-time to give a better consciousness of space-time,
that is, the ideas we have of space-time are not, for example, just
rules of logic, but also are recorded with sensations of touch and other
sensations to give a better consciousness, so the act
of reflection is not just able to logically reason with simple rules of
logic for building more complex logic rules etc. But it is also capable
of associating space-time sensations with objects that are displaced in
a 3-dimensional world, and therefore my theory makes us see the act of
thought as also being also another sens that resembles the sens of touch
, this is my explanation of how the consciousness and consciousness of
the ego is engendered by the brain.

When you say in mathematical logic:

A or B

How do you think you understand this logical rule?
You must go back to your childhood when you were
to learn it, you were told for example there are two balls,
and you had to take just one and give it back, and the teacher
made us understand for example the following: when you want to take two
balls you are informed with gestures that it is NO,
And when you just take one and turn the ball back, you get
to know that it is YES, therefore I affirm that it is thanks to the
existence of space-time which is also a consequence of our interior
sensation of the space-time which gives the consciousness of space-time,
I mean you are able for example with your brain
to feel and understand what BEFORE or BEHIND
Or LEFT or RIGHT, and you are able to feel the
space and to say that it exists and what it is, so you
are able to feel the space-time, and this sensation
in our brain that we have of space-time helps us
to understand the logical rule of: A or B, or the logical rule
of: A and B.

So let us return to the following theorem in mathematical logic:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

So how do you understand the:
If A then B? As in my explanation above, you can not
understand this rule without being conscious and without feeling
space-time, because even if you are a blind person, you can
feel your individuality and your singularity
which is the consciousness of the ego, and this self-consciousness
is a consequence of the sensation in our brain of space-time that allows
us to feel that the object which is "WE" is different from other objects
etc. Then what makes even the blind man feels the space-time and is
capable to say that this object is before that object in time,
So it is able to understand the logical rule of:
If A then B, and since he is capable of doing so, he is capable, thanks
to the sensation of the space-time that we have in our brain, that
permit us to understand The following theorem:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

This is my evidence based on the empirical facts and this proves that
mathematical logic is also a consequence of the sensation that we have
in our brain of space-time, without this sensation we can not, in my
opinion, understand mathematical logic, and since the machine is
incapable of feeling like a human being space-time, then we can not say
that artificial intelligence Is capable of achieving the emergence of
consciousness.

Now what is the truth ?

In mathematical logic the truth is rooted on our consciousness
and feeling of space-time as i have explained, so the reference
is space-time, so we are capable of deducting the truth by
mapping mathematical logic to our consciousness and our feeling
of the space-time, this is i think the reference that permit
to measure the Truth and define the Truth. And in the mathematical Set
theory that's the same as logic. Also the reference is important,
the reference can be general or it can be relative.



Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Olivier Miakinen
2018-01-26 07:18:02 UTC
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Post by Intelli2
Hello,
Hé ! Rien ne nous y oblige, d'autant que ce groupe est francophone.
Post by Intelli2
What is the essence of metathought in philosophy ?
Il faudrait en parler au métadieu purée.
Post by Intelli2
[...]
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Ah, j'aurais dû m'en douter. Tu es pénible aussi, de changer d'adresse
de courriel. Je vais encore devoir modifier mes filtres. :-(

[suivi vers la poubelle]
--
Olivier Miakinen
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